The xbox 360 brings nothing new to the gaming industry's. This what i call revolution. From Sony Computer Entertainment Labs.



Cool heh..? It might not appeal for some people. But it looks fun imo. Also, something NEW. They surely provide something more than point and click.

The 360 offers many things that are innovative, try to not conecntrate everything on graphics for a minute, as a matter of fact eliminate this whole "hardware=innovation" complex from your mind, the 360 offers Online play and services that out shadow any other console ever made. That's innovative. The 360 offers many different kinds of games, and offers gamers choices as to what they put in there 360s, making them fully customizable. That's innovative. Don't have an HDTV? Then simply don't buy an HDDVD drive and save yourself some money. I should put this in the HDDVD vs Blu Ray thread, but think about it for a second. If Blu-ray loses, sonys PS3 loses because it has Blu-ray STANDARD, not as an option. If HDDVD loses, BIG WHOOP! Have you ever thought that if it DOES lose, maybe Microsoft will just make a BLU-RAY USB drive, if HDDVD fails, we don't, because the 360 doesn't ENFORCE HDDVD and PUT it on your console, no, they give you the CHOICE of what you want and don't want. There ya go, it's a win/win for MS, and a potentially fatal loss for Sony. Sony did it before with Betamax vs VCR. Betamax lost, and Sony basically just said "Big whoop" and started cranking out VCRs, making themselves rich in the process because they made them more available and cheaper.

P.S. that camera green screen card trick has been done before. Cool idea, but I grew out of Yu-gi-oh a long time ago.

Betamax lost because adult-indursty (Aka, pr0n.) choosed VCR. This time it choosed blu-ray, thus blu-ray wins. You don't understand why they intergated it with the PS3. They did that because they wanted to market the blu-ray + PS3 in the same time, smart in my opinion. Main reason that the blu-ray won is PS3. Without it would've lost.

However, PlayStation also offer a good service like Live for free with lag-free servers. Also, clan/friend managment tools, cam supported, voice conference supported, trailers, games, arcades, AddOn, and all that Live can offer the PSN has it.

Blu-Ray is a Sony production btw, that why they want it to win. They will never give it to Microsoft.

You watch, if Blu-ray wins, within months they'll be a USB Blu-Ray drive for the 360.

And you said something very important back there, "Main reason that the blu-ray won is PS3. Without it would've lost". That's where you're wrong again, Blu-Ray didn't win because of the PS3, but the PS3 has the sales it does NOW because of Blu-Ray. You admit it then, without there fancy gadgets the PS3 will lose, so then you say that games/features and support don't matter, no it's only the format? Good that we're making ground here. I buy my game console for it's games, not to see King-Kongs nipple hair in 1080p HD glory. I want to play fun, amazing games with friends without the shit Playstation Network (Almost all people who've experienced both know that XBL owns PSN, it's like comparing a Steak and Shake to a Mcdonalds), and sony even said that as soon as XBL came out, there top concern was emulating that on there next console (Before the ages of PS3 vs 360).

SnakeTheFox Wrote:You watch, if Blu-ray wins, within months they'll be a USB Blu-Ray drive for the 360.

And you said something very important back there, "Main reason that the blu-ray won is PS3. Without it would've lost". That's where you're wrong again, Blu-Ray didn't win because of the PS3, but the PS3 has the sales it does NOW because of Blu-Ray. You admit it then, without there fancy gadgets the PS3 will lose, so then you say that games/features and support don't matter, no it's only the format? Good that we're making ground here. I buy my game console for it's games, not to see King-Kongs nipple hair in 1080p HD glory. I want to play fun, amazing games with friends without the shit Playstation Network (Almost all people who've experienced both know that XBL owns PSN, it's like comparing a Steak and Shake to a Mcdonalds), and sony even said that as soon as XBL came out, there top concern was emulating that on there next console (Before the ages of PS3 vs 360).

Blu-Ray already won for several reason, mainly because 6 million blu-rays (PS3's) sold. Secondly, because Sony has a huge alliance which convinced them to use blu-ray and drop HD-DVD. Same thing now with the PS3.

But honestly, playing videos or games in 1080p is priceless. High difintion is an amazing thing you can't say no to that. Specially with the PS3 graphics process. You can't resist not playing a game even if it had some.. err... bugs or not a great gameplay. You feel more comfortable than PS2 landscape.

The Xbox Live offers loads of futures like downloading HD-videos from there, and it has certainly more stuff to offer. But the basic are same. Before few months the PlayStation Network store was near empty, now look at it. They fill it day by day. Its getting bigger and bigger so is the community behind it.

Everyday I play Resistance or Motorstorm online I find some other guy who quited the Xbox 360. Well, mostly he is either european or asian. The xbox 360 is popular on Canada and United States more than other countries to be honest. But still the PS3 gonna win the heart of americans if it continues its momentum. As continuing releasing good game like Ratchet & Clank ( I can't wait for this one! I got loads of HD gameplay movies for it! IGN INSIDER FTW!).

However, we know that microsoft wont just stand watching how the PS3 will steal its glory? So microsoft will resist. Honestly, if developers wont start taking full advantage of the PS3 (Cell proccesor, Graphic Card, Blu-Ray, Sixaxis.) the winner would be the 360. But if they did take advantage of the PS3, the PS3 surely will be the winner of the next generation systems. Unless they release a new xbox which will be unlikely to happen.

When sony DOES get the upper hand, I'll worry, but so far they're behind the 360. Plus, many Asians simply use racist bias when choosing there consoles, which is the MAIN reason the PS3 is selling moderate now. The sales in the states are nowhere near as good as in Japan. The PS3 is selling pretty bad over here, but over there they're making money not off having a good console, but having a good fanbase and, not to mention the racist bais almost all Japanese gamers have against Western games/systems. They'll enjoy there shallow dating sims and off the counter Dynasty Warrior titles while we in the states enjoy Hack 'n Slash games (PoP, Devel May Cry, Heavenly Sword, Ninja Gaiden), and FPS. RPGs are the only shared thing western and eastern people both seem to enjoy. Some Japanese gamers who hate western games WILL play Hack 'n Slash (P.S. I'm not saying these games are MADE in the states/europe, but they're TARGETED for us). I don't think the PS3 will succeed because almost half of its fanbase are the Japanese, and they'll want cheap Dating Sims and shallow DW games.

And people buying the PS3 because it is a cheap alt to buying a Only-Blu Ray player is a GOOD thing? It goes to show that a lot of people are buying it for the console and not the GAMES it plays.

And on HD games, some of us aren't SPOILED by our parents and can't AFFORD HDTVs, so what is the point of a console whos games can only truly be enjoyed in HD? Also, if a game was PHOTO REALISTIC in graphics but had WEAK gameplay/story, no, I would NOT buy it, MAYBE rent it for a laugh, but unlike most of todays disillusioned gamer youth I wont be fooled and distracted by pretty colors. I'm looking for a GAME, not graphics.

SnakeTheFox Wrote:When sony DOES get the upper hand, I'll worry, but so far they're behind the 360. Plus, many Asians simply use racist bias when choosing there consoles, which is the MAIN reason the PS3 is selling moderate now. The sales in the states are nowhere near as good as in Japan. The PS3 is selling pretty bad over here, but over there they're making money not off having a good console, but having a good fanbase and, not to mention the racist bais almost all Japanese gamers have against Western games/systems. They'll enjoy there shallow dating sims and off the counter Dynasty Warrior titles while we in the states enjoy Hack 'n Slash games (PoP, Devel May Cry, Heavenly Sword, Ninja Gaiden), and FPS. RPGs are the only shared thing western and eastern people both seem to enjoy. Some Japanese gamers who hate western games WILL play Hack 'n Slash (P.S. I'm not saying these games are MADE in the states/europe, but they're TARGETED for us). I don't think the PS3 will succeed because almost half of its fanbase are the Japanese, and they'll want cheap Dating Sims and shallow DW games.

So, our culture is the default culture and their (Asian ) culture is different one? They think the same about you. They might wonder why you or us play loads of point & click games and that we don't have the intelligent to play their RPG games or the Sims. To be honest, I like the sims. Its good when you had enough of adrenaline for a day and you would like a small, peaceful games that has no aliens.

What's wrong with Hack'n Slash? I believe its also popular in north America? Dynasty Warriors can have a stupid gameplay. (I wonder what is the element that made so successful and enjoyable.) but its fun to mindlessly slaughter thousand of troops. But not for long :P i bought in the PS2 was good at first, then it was pretty boring. It seemed something that you do after a study session when you are bored.

There is not much difference between gamers. Japanese will also enjoy Devil May Cry 4? and all the game you said. But yes, they are racist. There is a small group of US people who yells.. Mostly 360 US fanboys :P "Support our troops in iraq, buy Xbox 360!". I saw that more than on times but I agree on that japanese are much much racist.

But that not true about the PS3 sales. PS3 is also popular in Europe. Where i live the PS3 is popular more than the xbox 360, or atleast its getting. Loads of my friend are selling their 360 for PS3. or owning both systems.

Quote:And people buying the PS3 because it is a cheap alt to buying a Only-Blu Ray player is a GOOD thing? It goes to show that a lot of people are buying it for the console and not the GAMES it plays.

Yep, thats true. But mostly they buy it also for gaming. If you want to buy the PS3 for bu-ray then you have a HD screen and if he was a gamer or casual gamers he'll think. "Why not buying games?"

Quote:And on HD games, some of us aren't SPOILED by our parents and can't AFFORD HDTVs, so what is the point of a console whos games can only truly be enjoyed in HD? Also, if a game was PHOTO REALISTIC in graphics but had WEAK gameplay/story, no, I would NOT buy it, MAYBE rent it for a laugh, but unlike most of todays disillusioned gamer youth I wont be fooled and distracted by pretty colors. I'm looking for a GAME, not graphics.

Yes, it wont. But most of the games out there in HD has atleast moderate gameplay/storyline, not if it was excellent. Playing on a HD is different. Its like VHS quality VS DVD quality, and I rather watch DVD than crappy VHS.

Quote:but unlike most of todays disillusioned gamer youth I wont be fooled and distracted by pretty colors. I'm looking for a GAME, not graphics.

Graphics and pretty colors are still factors for a good game if you like or not. That why companies spends millions just for graphics. If you like games and not graphics then play Pacman or Tetris, they have weak graphics but awesome gameplay. I am serious about it, I still play pacman when I am bored and i just want a fast game on the road. If market wasn't demanding graphics then the game industry would be more than happy to oblige to roll back to the stone age. It will cost alot less.. but I don't think everyone wants a PSone graphics.

But like any human being, i want something breathtaking gaming experince, awesome graphics+ storyline + excellent gameplay.

By tomorrow we will find out if Halo 3 lived up to it's name.

There's probably going to be people that beat it overnight so we should get some decent reviews as well on the overall gameplay. However, I did hear that the limited edition game discs have been reported to have scratches due to crappy quality packaging/discs.

Got it yesterday.

It wins.

End of story.

Reports are, it's selling better than Spiderman 3 or the Last Harry Potter Book.

Sales means nothing. Though, I gotta admit. Its pretty better than I thought and it wasen't an overhyped game at all.

If warhawk didn't kill it, then Killzone 2 will finish it for sure.

However, sales means nothing. The hype of the game could sell instead of the game itself. But Halo 3 has proved itself , can't talk about it.