+Deagle+ Wrote:

SnakeTheFox Wrote:All I know is I spent a grand total of around $700 dollars (over the past 3 years) or so on this computer, and it sputters and churns when playing Stalker....
like a graphics card not supporting a specific resolution, as the bare-minimum example.
...It is, most of the time, a matter of luck. PC gaming is just too unstable and faulty unless you're willing to shell out close to a grand for parts,

...Also, lol mac gaming. I don't know about you, but I don't feel like buying a brand new Mac every time a new game comes out.

You Dohave to know what your putting into your pc, that whole Matter of luck thing...thats probably in a sense that the person buying the components is completely unaware of what they are buying, they just pray it works. you dont have to be a genius to put a pc together, you just gotta take the time to learn the specs...after that, you will know exactly what you want in a pc. its not as hard as your making it out to be..sorry but thats how it is.

and 700 dollars in 3 years isn't much to be expecting a decent gaming pc...just saying

Stability comes with quality, quality comes with work, unless you work with your system...your not gonna get any stability. And Not to cut you in the quick but im sorry that idea is faulty in itself...you can get great parts for half the cabbage your thinking of...you just gotta know where to look.

Mac Gaming lols, you should read up on the innovations apple is coming out with, obviously your not in the loop...

...where do you think consoles originated from? A console is basically a PC, just no main OS, has its own configurations and stuff...but when you open it up..its all the same.

No, it's a fair amount of luck. Unless you're out buying brand new parts for everything, but again, some of us don't have money to spend on new parts.

Buying used parts comes with luck, and even new parts malfunction often. You've been hit with a spell of good luck, some people get luckily. Some, on the other hand, do have those reliability issues that have nothing to do with personal ability. A manufacturing error, compatibility issues, too many things to name.

Buying a gaming console buys reliability, I've never had a console quit or malfunction on me like my PC has. My PC is fine, not amazing, but it gets the job done. Lots of shit still goes wrong, though.

Again, you've been hit with a spell of what we call LUCK. You bought parts that were both manufactured fine, and were compatible. Eventually you'll install a game/program, and it will make your computer spit and churn, and there will be no obvious fix for it.

Also, unlike most people, I don't cream myself every time a macpressfag butters up a press conference with buzzwords and "OMG REVOLUTION MAC LOLZ!11", so yes, I am out of the "Apple loop", mainly because the only thing worse than apple products, is apple marketing and press conferences. "HEY GUISE WE HAVE AN APPLE IPHONE HERE, IT'S REVOLUTIONARY AND INNOVATIVE", when in reality it's just another Cell Phone. Same could be said for the Ipod; there's no such thing as an Ipod, that's a buzzword invented by Apple to sell expensive MP3 Players. But that's another thread. I'll leave the Machate to http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone

My point is, ask any computer technician, they'll tell you, building and maintaining a cheap gaming computer isn't all skill, it's a fair amount of luck as well. Gaming computers are unreliable, and only as useful as the amount of money you feed them. People like me who jump on used tech (everything in my PC besides the Graphics Card and CD-drive is used) don't get that much luck. Work computers suffer less, and are easier to maintain. But gaming computers have reliability problems out the wazoo.

lol sounds like you spent alot of time in a computer salvage garage...Gaming Computers-and Cheap Never belong in the same sentence...never have, and you cant expect to get used parts in mint condition...I refuse to use any of my used hardware i have lying around my house...mainly cuz its outta date...and plus I never look back. Alot of your "fails" with a computer isnt harware fail, its software fail..hense Microsoft XP? Vista? they all have problems...every OS does by any company.

there is no such thing as luck, just education...learning from mistakes, and moving onward. Who is teling you all this garbage about luck and PC's? I AM a Computer Technician! IM pretty sure I know what im talking about when I say that luck has nothing to do with hardware and software...just stop downloading pronz and maybe the errors will stop..

And the reason everything about the iPhone is so "innovative" is for the simple fact thats its the first of its kind. iPods are just little toys everyone fell in love with...its not apple's fault they beat microsoft once again.

In fact here is one of apple's "inovative" videos on the apple.com, i saw it, smiled, and thought of you snake...http://www.apple.com/guidedtour

Computer gaming is weak to me. I really am not comfortable playing a game on a pc, I feel it is more for work than play all day long.
And Deagle, considering you are running Xp on a Mac, I suggest you don't use any of the wireless and internet capabilities of XP. Turn all of that off and any other wireless app for the XP end. There is a virus I have heard that is capable of leaking it's signature into a Mac OS and causing some trouble. Be careful dude.

thanks for the heads up..I think i know the virus your talking about..Its the only real virus that can actually infect a mac...but all it does is mess with your iTunes and makes the least files played into auto-playing files and it mixes up the iTunes music folders..its kinda funny though.

I thought it actually did something to the OS.. Hmm, maybe the person I heard it off is just biased to PCs...

Anyhow, I've never been much of one for gaming on a PC. Sure I've got a dozen or two PC games, but I rarely play 'em. And I don't have a gaming PC either because of that fact.

But I do sorta know what Snake's talking about with luck.. My PC before it died and was reconstructed with better hardware, was far from able to play many games.. And supposedly, it shouldn't of been able to run Oblivion... But somehow it did..

+Deagle+ Wrote:But I was annoyed with how sega kinda fell apart because of the advancing consoles like the PS2 and the xbox..so one my favorite consoles (dreamcast) fell through.

Not 100% Sega's fault, it's not like they made a bad console, it's just people was more interested in PS2, also more casual gamers owned a ps2, so playstation had that mark.

the reason sega fell through with consoles was because they had bad marketing, because of the fact they got rid of the guy who did the marketing the whole time for sega. but the dreamcast is still alive in japan. its not like they died completely. and sega came out with a cell phone awhile back. and snake theres no such thing as luck... theres doing something right and doing something wrong.

I understand what he means by luck. Sometimes you will do something that you aren't sure will work, and a part ends up working better than a more expensive one.

Deadpool Wrote:I understand what he means by luck. Sometimes you will do something that you aren't sure will work, and a part ends up working better than a more expensive one.

well yeah but thats where my theory of luck comes in, if your not sure it will work then dont rely on luck... research it, better save than sorry. thats doing something right, just like i was saying.

Both sides work for me. But thats why I stick with consoles. You can never predict every problem that could occur in pc gaming.